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and 22% fewer calories than dog chow. discover the lighter side of strong. new purina dog chow light & healthy. good evening, americans. welcome to the ed show live from minneapolis. let's get to work. >> by the power vested in us, by the state of minnesota, we pronounce that you are now legally married. >> what a day for minnesota. >> i told him, that you were the real minnesota miracle man. >> not likely huge change will come any time soon. >> michigan's definition as marriage between a man and woman is not effective. >> hopefully have a baby soon. >> how great will it be on the
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day when people can get gay married in oprahhoma. >> we are trying to ignite that love affair that america has with america'sfounding. >> the founding fathers of america sure had -- >> reshape the united states into a progressive liberal utopia. >> for you and for me. everybody. equality, peace. >> oh, no, let's go. let's go crazy. >> let's get done. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. have you ever been in a conversation with a conservative who comes back in any argument you may be having and says, you know what? there are absolutes. tonight's ed show is about absolutes. absolutely change taking place right here in the middle of the country surrounded by red states. tonight i'm broadcasting from minneapolis, minnesota, in the middle of the country where democrats have taken control of the house, senate and governor's office.
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you know, in the past year we have seen three things, fiscal change, social change and something that we never see anything under republican rule, and that's reinvestment in public education. this state is proof positive when the democrats get control, things change for the better. now i know there's a lot of people upset about the way the country is being run but everything that has happened in minnesota pulls in the majority, not only in this state but nationally, people around the country are sick of washington, d.c. and they are sick of the same old garbage from their elected officials. >> first of all, chris, government doesn't create jobs. the private sector does. and what we have going on today is a real erosion of the confidence on the behalf of the american public in terms of their trust in government and frankly, faith in their economy. >> oh, absolutely. we're all losing trust in faith
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because we've had 41 months of private sector job growth. cantor and the republicans, you know what, they are all the same from the same talking points. they spew it out every sunday. radical governors around the country are trying to balance budgets on the backs of the middle class of this country. what they are doing is attacking unions. going after women's rights and picking on the poor and middle class. this is not happening in the the state of minnesota. let's cross the river to wisconsin. there's no better example than a reversal of everything that's taking place in this state of minnesota. just this week, governor scott walker said republicans might expand collective bargaining, restrictions to police and firefighters in his state. now this is a 180 from his previous position. this is just the latest sneak attack from governor walker. a long history of going after working men and women in that state. but it is important to keep in mind, there's hope. a lot of people are in the down
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troddened when it comes to political exhaust igs. i want you to look at this map. m minnesota is a blue state in a sea of red states run by republican governors. so tonight we're going to highlight how minnesota is doing things better compared to the states around them. much better than its neighbor to the east, wisconsin, where walker is running around the country telling everybody how great things are in the badger state. this week, hundreds of same-sex couples tied the knot here in the twin cities since minnesota legalized gay marriage on august 1st. that is social change. you know what it is? the end of discrimination in this state. minnesota congressman keith ellison was so proud of his state, he put together this video. >> this land is your land, this land is my land, -- hey y'all, tomorrow people got involved,
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people got active, made a compelling case to the minnesota people and minnesota people said, do your thing. minnesota is for you and for me. everybody, equality. peace. >> it is not just social issues in this state. minnesota's democratically controlled legislature, and they have the governor's chair with mark dayton. they are taing this state in a direction of where majority of people in the state want it go, unlike washington and ashley. if you compare minnesota to what walker is doing in wisconsin, it is like night and day. here in the state of minnesota's workers rights to collectively bargained is being protected. minnesota even passed laws allowing child care workers to unionize. in wisconsin, we all know scott walker relentlessly attacked workers rights to organize. minnesota has raised taxes on the top 2% to balance their budget. the democrats have delivered their first balanced budge net over ten years.
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they also passed a cigarette tax. in wisconsin, republicans just rammed through a $650 million income tax cut for the wealthiest residents in that state. minnesota is using new tax revenue to fund public education. where do you hear that? state legislature approved $485 billion increase for school spending over the next two years. minnesota has been a model for education for years. pa lepawlenty came in, made cut where communities want them. walker across the river is pushing voucher programs and cut $800 million from wisconsin public education. nobody voted for that. that came out of nowhere. here in minnesota, same-sex couples can get married. walker supports a ban on same-sex marriage. in minnesota, you don't have to worry about being arrested for peacefully protesting.
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in the state of wisconsin, they have passed a law requiring a permit to protest with more than 20 people. what is the message there? don't even gather in a crowd or you could get popped by the cops. i thought voices is what we wanted to hear in our democracy. republicans have used it to arrest some of wisconsin's nicest senior citizens. now, isn't this a hell of a picture for law enforcement? good pr going on right there. >> i would like to point out that tim pawlenty left this state with $6.2 billion budget deficit. that's what republicans did in the majority in the state not too long ago. party of fiscal responsibility, they couldn't get the job done here in minnesota. when dayton took over, he raised taxes on the top income earners in the state and they finally balanced the state's budget. and also they cut property taxes in the process. and there's one more thing that
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i think has to be profoundly pointed out. obama care. it is going to be fully implemented in the state of minnesota. where as in wisconsin, it is being rejected. so you might wonder, how in the world can life be so different when it is just a stone's throw across the river? let me give you a hint, folks. it's the republicans. it's the majority. the states around minnesota, the dakotas, iowa, nebraska, and wisconsin, they've cornered in on minnesota. but minnesota's progressive, all of these states i just mentioned, are being run exactly the way the republicans want to see their government run and it's failing. now you can make the argument that north dakota is through the roof. take oil out of north dakota and you have a pow patchy con my, i guarantee you. but when you talk about not employmenting obama care, not investing in education, going after worker's rights, stopping p em from protesting because
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there might be 21 people or 22 people because the number isn't correct, does that sound like america? does that sound like where communities want to go? since when do people go to the polls saying we want it cut everything because we want to be sure we balance the budget. by the way, the big conversation about income inequality has been addressed in this state. i don't think there are any wealthy people in the state of minnesota that will simply tip over because they have to pay a little bit more to get services right for the communities across the state. it's call investment in community. it is still alive. and if you are a liberal and if you are politically squausted, i want you to pay attention to this story and all of the states around minnesota because those states are run like the washingtonites. this state is being run by the people. where the majority counts. and elections matter. and people's voices aren't
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circumvented. democrats told residents if they got control of the legislature and the governor's chair they would move this state forward and that's exactly what they are doing. don't give up on hope. the president talks a lot about hope and change. hope aep change is alive in this state. and good things are happening for people. and i'm remiss if i didn't mention the child care help that is go to be to kindergartners coming in this state. it's very important. what is that, though? oh, yeah, that's investing in the future. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think about this. tonight's question, do you wish your state was more like minnesota? text a for yes. text b for no. can you go to our blog. we will bring you results later on in the show. could not have a better guest on this subject than the man we have here tonight. minnesota governor mark daton. congratulations on a great job. you have done exactly what you said you were going to do. i think it's progressive and it is what the people want.
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but governor, answer this, is this what the residents of minnesota want? are you following the majority? >> we had an election last fall. we want from republican legislature, elected in 2010, to democratic legislature elected two years later because we offered a sensible path forward with raising taxes as you said on the wealthiest minnesotans, closing tax loop holes for toks corporations and putting money into education where republicans wanted to cut more and cut more an raise property taxes and people in minnesota said clairely we want to go on a different path from the previous two years. for. >> what message does this send to the rest of the country, governor? your thoughts on that. >> i found republicanes who controlled the minnesota legislature in 2011-12 were extreme ideal ogs who were
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compromise was a bad word. a very rigid view of how the country should be. they don't like government. detest government. don't want government to succeed, as you pointed out with such thing as obama care. people bb said, no, we want a balanced approach. we also want it make our taxes less progressive and the wealthy to pay their fair share and invest in the future of our state which is education. >> governor, you raised taxes on high income earners and also smokers. why was this a good idea? >> our tax system state and local is progressive. very wealthiest minnesotans pay about 75% of their income in state and local taxes compared to the middle class. so we wanted to even that up and shift reliance off of the property tax which also doubled in minnesota for the last decade. looks like property taxes will go down this next year for the
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first time in over a decade. cigarette tax, i was torn about that one. i opposed it in the past because it is very progressive. but we wanted to prevent people from taking up smoking and hope that it will give incentive for people who are smoking now to quit. so it was for medical purposes rather than tax policy. >> governor, from what i can see, everything the legislature and you have done in the state is exactly where the country is. all of these things pulling in the majority. implement obama care. protect workers. invest if education. close the gap on income inequality. get more revenue from wealthiest. close corporate tax holes. in the meantime you have scott walker running aren't country bragging about how he is running wisconsin. i want a very candid opinion from you. should democratic governor talks more about this model in.
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minnesota and give people hope that this is what can happen when a progressive legislature gets together and follows the will of the people? >> minnesota is going to such an extreme and slashing funding for public education? we cut higher education by 14% in 2011 facing the deficit you described. so minnesota gone to the extreme right and much more sensible course of action. last democratic governors are already on that trang. track. and 2010 was a bad year for democrats. i barely won and as you said, states around us have republican legislators. fortunately in congress in the
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2010 redistricting following the census, they were able to lock in a lot of republican districts. and it is tough to get washington out of gridlock that it's in now. >> minnesota governor mark dayton. thank you for being here tonight so much. share your thoughts on twitter on "the ed show" and on facebook. president obama hits the talk shows, while john boehner hits the links. we will fast forward to next week's big stories. that's next. and as congress heads out on yet another vacation, the republicans have a shut down looms. our all-star panel weighs in on that. so much more coming up on the ed show. stay with us. [ male announcer ] if you've run out of tissues and considered other things... you may be muddling through allergies.
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progressives, let's get back to work. america needs to pay attention and stay vocal bp let's look at what's ahead for this week this fast forward. the president is getting his one-liners ready. >> i was not born in a manger. i was actually born on crypton and sent by my father jorel. >> i'm just eye candy for you ladies. >> she wouldn't stop drunk-texting me from cartehana. >> we have all been distracted by phony scandals. time to be distracted by the phony recovery. yes. >> emily's list hammers at the glass ceiling once again. >> thanks to you, it's got about 18 million cracks in it. >> the group is holding a forum in iowa with one goal -- ♪ ♪
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>> all the appry cants seem to be men. >> commander-in-chief of the army, a woman, i say it is unspeakable. >> binders full of women. >> in congress, hit the pause button it week. >> bueller, bueller. >> that's right, folks. lawmakers are taking a five-week summer break. >> they've already taken 32 days off this year. >> let's look at pros and cons of congress being on vacation. pro, congress gets to kick back, relax and do nothing. con. then they get to go on vacation bp. >> sorry. >> joining us now is "daily
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beast" columnist bob shrum, michael eric dyson and host of the show here on msnbc "disrupt" karen finney. karen, you first. the house voted to repeal obama care for the 40th ditime. what does that mean and does it matter that point? >> it doesn't matter in the big picture. but in the little picture republicans convinced themselves that this is an issue they can go home and tell constituents that they voted against obama care despite the fact it is already law and implemented. the other piece of this obviously is this is part of the set-up for the showdown i think we will see in the fall where some folks are actually ready to shut the government down over obama care. >> you guys across the board see how this is unfolding in
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washington. you have people like ted cruz who want to shut down the government. this could be a disaster. why are they going down the road? >> with him and haund paul it is about 2016 primary politics. they are both thinking about running for president. i think paul pretty much decided to. . if you listen some in the republican party, they think this would be a disave the per. that's because they were there in 1995 when they saw the train wreck, political train wreck that happened when newt gingrich shut down the government. if -- i think boehner understands this. i think that mcconnell understands this. boehner wants to stay speaker. mcconnell has a primary. so it could happen. but i think they will find a way not to jump off the cliff. if they do, if they crash the full faith and credit of the united states by stonewalling the debt ceiling, create an
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international crisis, if they shut down the government then i think democrats will not only keep the senate in 2014, i think despite the gerrymandering will win back the house. lindsay graham says this is suicidal. you have the conservative columnist saying i agree about it is did you sisuicide. we can't do it. >> michael eric dyson, i remember saying this is going to be a very active august. where the tea party got rolling and that is the beginning of the obstruction. what kind of august do liberal activists have to have to communicate that things can happen on a national level if we win owe locations, if we break this threshold and stop this obstruction. this is what will have to happen. it will take boots on the ground enthusiasm. >> i agree with finny and shrum.
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they sound like a legal office there. this is the kind of august you have to look forward to. not only trying to get a vacation in but the reality is that the american populous is taking a huge loss here because the refusal of republican legislators to do their jobs and their jobs is not simp obstruction. their job is not to roadblock, it is to bring the goods, so to speak, to their constituencies. tell them what they haven't done. that is to say we have blocked obama care but that is not telling us what you have done forness the positive. seems to me if they shut down this government or actually end in the fall try to break us in the same fashion they did before, not only is this down positively to democrats as mr. s
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shrum said, they understand this is the business for the people in the business toened undermine america. and this is not good for business economically or globally. we need a food hold on logic for the americans and the broader populous will poll if in a much more significant fashion and maybe then if democrats maintain the spine or get a spine in their backs, they have stand up and articulate their vision without republicans finding a way to undermine it. >> all right. michael eric dyson, karen finney and bob shrum. stay with us. taking a plan cross country as republicans spin their wheels on this month's job numbers. and later, the wage war continues. candidate for mayor in new york city. on what a living waning really means for workers. but first, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live is just ahead. [ male announcer ] in your lifetime,
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welcome back. our ask ed live show, first question from terry. why are so few commentators outraged about the conservative destruction of detroit? that would be everybody. for the life of me, i don't know. i think a philosophy of how people do their job. this is just my philosophy. this is what i believe in. i don't think that you do a story and say, oh, well, we've covered that. let's get on to the next one. i've always been one who believes that you do a story and you get into the different facets of the story.
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and maybe others don't view it that way. where are the people? what's the back story? what's the ramifications? what's the money? where is the political push coming from? there are so many facets to the detroit story, stealing an election, cirqcumventing local elections. there is so much there. i don't know how i could do that story justice the way it is affecting p.eople's lives and hw conservative states are run and when conservatives get power. how do you do that in one show? i don't know. i can't speak for anyone else. but i made a commitment to stay on the detroit story because i think it is a model for destruction. our next question is from ryan. ed, what will you do if you win the $400 million powerball this week? first of all, i have to buy a ticket. and if abuy a ticket, sometimes
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i do, sometimes i don't. if i do, and i happen it win it, my wife and i talk about this quite a bit. we think money does funny things to people. i'm going to give you a serious answer. i would give quite a bit of it away. put a certain amount in the economy to help other people. and take the time to go fishing. i would spread it out, if you know what i mean. i wouldn't hog it all. stick around, you're watching "the ed show" at msnbc. ♪ [ acoustic guitar: upbeat ] [ dog ] we found it together. on a walk, walk, walk. love to walk. yeah, we found that wonderful thing. and you smiled. and threw it.
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esurance. proud sponsor of the u.s. open. the blisters were oozing, and painful to touch. i woke up to a blistering on my shoulder. i spent 23 years as a deputy united states marshal and i've been pretty well banged up but the worst pain i've experienced was when i had shingles. when i went to the clinic, the nurse told me that it was a result of having had chickenpox. i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. welcome back to the ed show. we have tried to keep the focus
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on issues that hit the kitchen table of the american bill of class. middle class families care about jobs. they care about making end meet. so i have some good news tonight. acourting to the labor department, here we go. the economy added 162,000 jobs to the month of july. that's good. unemployment rate went down from 7.6% in june to 7.4% in july. and i know i'm going to get a lot of communication from people saying wait a minute, ed, the real rate is this. i get all that. but these are the numbers that the labor department has put out. for 41 consecutive months, we have seen in this country, private sector job growth. of course there's a lot more work to be done. but this is good news. and there is no doubt that president obama renewed his focus on the economy. almost like he is back in the combine mode. in july the president toured the country to talk to americans
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about his economic agenda. he is vowed to spend the rest of his press presidency. >> i will keep trying to give the middle class a better shop in the 21st century and talk about theirs. but threatening national default on bills that congress already racked up. that's not an ek knockic plan. denying healthcare for americans or try to shut down government just because i'm for keeping it open, that's not helping the middle class. >> the president laid out his terms for a grand bargain. >> so, again, here is the bottom line. i'm willing to work with republicans on reforming our corporate tax code as long as we use the money from transitioning to a simpler tax system for a
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significant investment in creating middle class jobs. that's the deal. i'm just going to keep on throwing ideas out there to see if something takes. i'm going to lay out my ideas to give the middle class a better shot. but now it is time for the republicans to lay out their ideas. >> joining again, bob shrum, michael eric dyson and karen finney. i tell you what, michael, the president is basically saying, i'll do anything you want it do as long as we help the middle class. but getting a grand bargain would be lowering the corporate tax rate. how would that fly in the liberal committee and with the democrats. >> here is the reality. president obama is a man of controlled desperation, so to speck. he understands he has a limited window of opportunity here but also understands the optics of this.
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selling the middle class on the belief he is defending them is critical here. i don't mean that in the pe pejorative ags fashion, i mean he has to convince people and i wish there was more about the poor people too. but to help the middle class understand that the government is behind them and concerned about their best interests is the kind of preparation for some belt tightening that might occur as a result of the intransigentens of the republican party. then when that link is drawn, i think there is some clarify here that sacrifice that those people will continue to be made, to make, is at the cost of a republican legislator that refuses to acknowledge that they have to contribute to the people's overall goodwill. i think this is some sackry fois that may be endured. >> karen be with you look at these numbers. they are good. 41 months is a long time.
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they are out there spinning numbers, saying they are sluggish, misleading. will they ever be satisfied with any progress whatsoever? >> no. >> seems to say the goal is still the same to detroy the president, destroy the legacy, do nothing on jobs. dot american people get it? >> i think they are starting it get it, ed. you and i both know that this that set of talking points, that the same set they pull out every month. it doesn't matter what the numbers are because they don't care what facts are. it is not just that they have been blocking the ideas that the president put forward. and again, he put forward some very good ideas. he put forward ideas that republicans used to support. but this past week with the transportation bill and the hud legislation, there was so much infighting between the republicans they couldn't even make it go. but that would have created jobs. this week the gop became job killers themselves. that would have created money for infrastructure and jobs. instead, what did they say? they couldn't even get their own act together. >> bob, the political strategy,
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president's out talk together american people about the economy, saying he will keep throwing ideas out there. is that winging it or will he be respected for doing that? or is that him throwing his arms up saying i can't get anything done with this crowd. what should his strategy be? what can he do? >> he has it try to make a deal. though i'm skeptical he will make a deal in the end. there's a descent chance he gets by the debt ceiling. descent chance getting by the continuing solution. it is hard for him to come to a grand bargain with the republicans. by the way, lowering the corporate tax rate but closes a lot of loop holes, he is dealing with the republican congress where i look at it and i say, gop now stands for ground hogs on parade. because everyday in the republican house, is like the movie ground hog day. they dot same thing over and over again. they do nothing and then vote to repeal obama care. i think they're actually in a little bit of panic about obama care.
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it takes effect in 2014, as you point out. for almost three years, tens of millions of americans will be getting healthcare because of that legislation. by 2016, it'll be very, very poisonous, i think, to call for repealing it. by 2020 you will probably have a republican candidate who said obama care is safe in my hand. >> karen, is it me or is immigration falling off the conversation screen here for a while? what going on? >> as the president's output there, this is immigration reform. if you listen to the republicans, it is clear what they are trying to do is give it a she death by chopping it up and lots of votes in the house and latest proposal, so anti-family and anti-american, the kids bill so to speak says kids you can stay here but we are sending your parent home. so just leaving kids, like, alone here in the united states. what kind of sense does that make? that's what we are hearing from the republicans. those are the big ideas, ed.
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>> michael eric dyson, there is a conversation on the democratic side to increase the benefits of social security to increase the minimum wage, to reinvest and go home actually, during all. and talk about public education. the democrats pole stores have been instructed to do this, this is going up on the priority list with the american people. how can the democrats with those issues on their side, not come into the majority, in the mid terms? how could this not be a good year for the democrats? >> well, it should be. but the reality is, so many americans have been hood winked and bam booze elled to borrow another man's phrase, bit republicanes who convinced so many millions of people to vote against their best interest. would you think that given the litany of things you just indicated that democrats could stand up and be proud of their record. that's the first index here. that the first indication.
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that democrats have to be unafraid to be democrats. stand up, tell the truth from their perspective. narrate the story from your outlook and be unafraid to tell the american people that this is not only what's good for our party, it is what is good for the american populous. so unless we stand up and have confidence, self affirmation, we won't be able to confirm or affirm to a populous that is teetering on the brink of destruction because they are caught between two warring parties, that their best interests are at stake here. finally, i think what we've got to do is to be able to clearly tell that story. not with a bunch of, you know, rhetorical and jetson thrown in the stream of consciousness, dad gum it, just tell the truth we are at war for the future of america. we have to borrow some of the apocalyptic terms, to paint the grand picture against the campus of human history. if we can do that in the next five to six weeks, we have a
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better chance of winning and catching up to the polls which have indicated the american population is far ahead of us when it comes to being able to flts what's really at stake. >> all right. michael eric dyson, bob shrum, karen finney, great to have you on the ed show tonight. thank you very much. do you wish your state was more like minnesota? 97% of you've said yes. 3% of you said no. up next in pretenders, san diego sexual harassment case gets more twisted. why mayor mccreepy says he is the real victim here. >> you stay classy, san diego. ♪ i'm a hard, hard worker and i'm working every day. ♪ ♪ i'm a hard, hard worker and i'm saving all my pay. ♪ small businesses get up earlier and stay later. and to help all that hard work pay off, membership brings out millions of us on small business saturday and every day to make shopping small huge.
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have to squirm to get away. >> an attendee complimented her work ethic by saying she worked her butt off. >> he turned to me and said turn around. he proceeded to take his hand and pat me on his posterior and laugh and say, no, it's still there. >> he worked me to work without any underwear on. >> bob stepped between me and the door way. he stopped me and got very klcle to me. he ran his finger up my cheek. and he whispered to me, do have you a man in your life? >> he tried to move my face towards his to kiss me on mouth. i turned away and then started me negotiating with him. >> he would say not until you kiss me. he tried four times. >> of course the mayor of san diego refuses to refisigresign. and get this, he is trying to pass the blame on to the city. his excuse to the handsy behavior, no one told him it was
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wrong. fillener saying the city cancelled suks you'll training opinion even kindergartners know not to touch anyone in their no-nos. he will have two weeks of intense therapy to learn to keep his hands to himself. but remember, admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. so if bob fillener thinks skipping sexual harassment classes opens the door, he can just keep on pretending. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from a dry mouth
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punch it in and punch it out. this is a story for the folks who take a shower after work. this is also a story for the folks who are struggling to make it on minimum wage. workers across the country staged protests to demand a
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living wage. 2 million americans are trying to scrape by on $7.25 an hour. bill o'reilly doesn't want to raise the minimum wage, but he had some free career advice. >> you can't live off of making $7 an hour. >> no, you can't. but it's not designed for that. it's designed you enter the workplace, you understand the rules, you show up on time, you do your job, you get a reference and you get a better job. look, if i were the franchise operators, i'd pay them as much as i could. but it's not realistic to double their salary. >> well, we went out on the streets to ask what real people think about the minimum wage. >> i can't live off of 7.25 anywhere, to be quite honest. 7.25 is a joke. i think that the minimum wage is not nearly a living wage as what we need. and certain parts of the country including new york city and los angeles, $18 will get you barely enough to survive. >> i can't imagine making
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minimum wage and trying to live a happy, normal life. it seems like it would be impossible. >> people actually make money, they can then spend money again that they can afford to live. >> there's no way someone could live here on minimum wage. i think the more and more costs go up, obviously the less people that can afford to live here. you can't even live in brooklyn which is outside of the city, too. i think the wage should definitely go up. >> i brown bag it all the time because i can't afford to eat in the city. i don't know how people paying 7.25, how do they pay rent? how do they get work? >> i've never made minimum wage, but it's still expensive. i'm saving up just enough money to get like mcdonald's. >> i'm joined by someone who wants to raise the minimum wage in new york city if he is the city's next mayor. democratic mayoral candidate bill deblazio.
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thanks for joining us on "the ed show." i want to get your take on the minimum wage. it is a conversation that's entered into this race in new york city. would you be for -- do you think that raising the minimum wage would hurt businesses? >> no, at this point, ed, we need to raise the minimum wage because people just can't make it. it's astounding what's happening in this city. we had a recent study by the city of new york that 46% of the people of new york city were within 150% of the poverty level, meaning at or near the poverty level. this has become insupportable for families and we've got to raise wages and benefits. that's why the fast food workers are right and city governments all over the country need to get involved in helping workers organize in raising minimum wage as a matter of law. we need to use all these approaches. >> i'm sure every mayor in the country has paid attention to what is unfolding in the state of michigan and certainly in the
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city of detroit. do you foresee any troubles ahead for new york city if it doesn't keep its act together, get its act together and straighten out the priority list of what the citizens want and, of course, minimum wage is all part of that. your thoughts on what's unfolding in detroit and how it might mean for new york city. >> we're in no danger. there are cautionary tales with what happened with detroit that we have to deal with in the long run. the central problem in new york right now is inequality. the central problem is we're living a tale of two cities and half of our people are literally in a situation where they can't make ends meet. michael bloomberg hasn't responded. the greatest economic crisis since the great depression, yet none of the city policies that could have provided relief, paid sick days, raising the minimum wage, none of that was done in time to help people during this
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crisis. our central issue right now is the challenge faced by working class, middle class, poor folks in this city just getting by. the long-term problems, yeah, there's things to learn from detroit, but thank god we have time to deal with that. >> you've got harry belafonte's endorsement because of your stance on stop and frisk. from what i've seen of this, you really have been the first candidate that came out and was very defined on stop and frisk, not that the others weren't, but it just seems that you have been much more determined on this issue. how would stop and frisk unfold under your administration? >> we need to address this immediately. harry belafonte's endorsement meant so much to me because he's a lion of the civil rights movement. what he said is what i feel. this is a crisis happening right now in new york city. young men of color being singled out, being racially profiled almost every single day. almost 90% of those stopped, ed, innocent in every way according
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to police statistics. so what i've said -- and i'm the only candidate that says it -- we must have a new police commissioner, someone who will be devoted to bringing police and community back together. and we need a legal ban on racial profiling. michael bloomberg vetoed that a few weeks ago. it will be up for an override vote shortly. and we need a new inspector general for the nypd because, unfortunately, without independent oversight, this thing will keep happening at nypd. >> quickly, you are the latest poll puts you second place and shows anthony weiner in fourth place. does it matter if he drops out of the race? it looks like it's a three-person race right now, or your thoughts on that? >> we're picking up a lot of support. people want a progressive alternative and our numbers are rising. but i think he should step aside so we can have a more serious debate about the future here. >> bill de blasio, good to have you on the "ed show." >> thank you. >> we'll see you back here next saturday, 5:00 p.m. eastern on
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from pie to eggs to shoes. >> look at that. that is quick. >> politicians show they can dish it out and they can take it. >> he didn't think. he just went bap. >> from a slap in the face -- >> i couldn't believe what i was seeing. >> -- to chewing over a piece of legislation. >> there are people pulling her hair, trying to get her to spit it out. it is unbelievable. >> lawmakers engaged in all-out brawling. >> nothing is under control. you know, just violence. just rage. >> and which of these slip-ups gets your vote for most embarrassing? >> uh-oh. you hate it when that happens. ♪ what is your name

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